How do you desert an army you never joined?

Episode 2 of Refused, Novaya Gazeta Europe’s podcast about the people who refuse to fight in Russia’s war

Russia has countless methods of forcing people into its army. And it doesn’t stop at its own citizens.

Refused, a new podcast from Novaya Gazeta Europe, explores what happens to people who refuse to fight for Russia, the risks they take to get out, and the questions they raise for Western countries.

Episode 2 is out now. Listen below or wherever you get your podcasts.

Refused is written and hosted by Sam Breazeale.